Virgins Suck
I had an interesting conversation with one of my Category 2 guys during an off-site break at work. Whilst mellowing out, we struck up a little chat about sex... there's a shocker. Anyway, it went a bit like this:
"So," I said, "Are you dating anyone?"
"Nope."
"Well then are you looking? Attractive guy like you should be having a new girl on your arm everyday of the week... right?"
"Well..." he replied as he exhaled "I do go out with the guys and I see girls all the time, but none as beautiful as you."
"No seriously, come on..." I quipped, "Don't you ever, like, see anything you're interested in?"
"Yes, sometimes..." he paused and smiled "But I seem to be a virgin magnet.. I have trouble with that."
Okay, I must admit I was a bit taken back with what he said. It bothers him to be a virgin magnet....huh. Isn't that like every other guys conquest? To have a virgin? I thought that the minute a woman declared herself a virgin (to a man) it was like a really really good thing. So I inquired a bit further:
"A virgin magnet? I thought guys liked that... how can that be a bad thing?"
He took another toke and choked back his reply... "okay, it's like this... the minute they tell me they're a virgin it's an immediate turn-off because virgins suck when it comes to sex."
I had to laugh "you mean like, literally and you don't like the sucking? Or that they're just trouble with getting attached... perhaps you had a bad experience with one then?"
"No, no...not a bad experience... it's just that they don't have the skills that experienced women do. I would rather have a woman that knows what she's doing than a virgin. It has everything to do with the sex and how it feels to me. I enjoy an active participant, not some girls that's going to just lay there and not know what she's doing."
Interesting point. And it makes sense.
So, tell me why it is that so many men enjoy women who have never experienced the thrill of sex. Is it the shyness? The anticipation on her part? Maybe it's the fact that you like to feel as if you are teaching her something. Don't feed me that crap that it's all about breaking the hymen... I believe that's about as much bull-shit as saying "it's tighter than an actively sexual woman."
I have had two kids, and alot of sex... to this day my husband still has trouble cramming it in there, and complains all too often that I am too tight, but enjoyable. So that being said there is no difference between a virgin and any other woman as far as tightness is concerned.
I have been with a virgin, myself not being one at the time.... it was boring. I had to do everything, from agressing fore play to controling his breathing and his orgasm. Even for a minute there I thought the poor guy was going to have a heart attack! SO yes, that sucked...I agree.
I would think that it would be best for a man or woman to have a good fufilling encounter with one that knows what they are doing. Let's leave the virgins to the virgins.... they can figure it out on their own. Or maybe not.
If you read this post and have some insight on what you prefer, post a comment and tell me about which you prefer... let's settle this dilemma once and for all.
Which is better, a virgin? Or someone with experience? You make the call.
"So," I said, "Are you dating anyone?"
"Nope."
"Well then are you looking? Attractive guy like you should be having a new girl on your arm everyday of the week... right?"
"Well..." he replied as he exhaled "I do go out with the guys and I see girls all the time, but none as beautiful as you."
"No seriously, come on..." I quipped, "Don't you ever, like, see anything you're interested in?"
"Yes, sometimes..." he paused and smiled "But I seem to be a virgin magnet.. I have trouble with that."
Okay, I must admit I was a bit taken back with what he said. It bothers him to be a virgin magnet....huh. Isn't that like every other guys conquest? To have a virgin? I thought that the minute a woman declared herself a virgin (to a man) it was like a really really good thing. So I inquired a bit further:
"A virgin magnet? I thought guys liked that... how can that be a bad thing?"
He took another toke and choked back his reply... "okay, it's like this... the minute they tell me they're a virgin it's an immediate turn-off because virgins suck when it comes to sex."
I had to laugh "you mean like, literally and you don't like the sucking? Or that they're just trouble with getting attached... perhaps you had a bad experience with one then?"
"No, no...not a bad experience... it's just that they don't have the skills that experienced women do. I would rather have a woman that knows what she's doing than a virgin. It has everything to do with the sex and how it feels to me. I enjoy an active participant, not some girls that's going to just lay there and not know what she's doing."
Interesting point. And it makes sense.
So, tell me why it is that so many men enjoy women who have never experienced the thrill of sex. Is it the shyness? The anticipation on her part? Maybe it's the fact that you like to feel as if you are teaching her something. Don't feed me that crap that it's all about breaking the hymen... I believe that's about as much bull-shit as saying "it's tighter than an actively sexual woman."
I have had two kids, and alot of sex... to this day my husband still has trouble cramming it in there, and complains all too often that I am too tight, but enjoyable. So that being said there is no difference between a virgin and any other woman as far as tightness is concerned.
I have been with a virgin, myself not being one at the time.... it was boring. I had to do everything, from agressing fore play to controling his breathing and his orgasm. Even for a minute there I thought the poor guy was going to have a heart attack! SO yes, that sucked...I agree.
I would think that it would be best for a man or woman to have a good fufilling encounter with one that knows what they are doing. Let's leave the virgins to the virgins.... they can figure it out on their own. Or maybe not.
If you read this post and have some insight on what you prefer, post a comment and tell me about which you prefer... let's settle this dilemma once and for all.
Which is better, a virgin? Or someone with experience? You make the call.
posted by Everything Nice at 11:33 AM
3 Comments:
I don't think I've ever met a guy who is obsessed with virgins. I think it boils down to what you're doing with that woman -- as a girlfriend and/or future spouse, yeah, a virgin would be OK or more desirable, but a chick you just want to nail, yeah, one with some miles is way better.
Plus, with a virgin, there's so many potential hang-ups. Maybe she's held onto it for the "right" one and thinks you're it (but you think she's "Ms. Right Now"). Then how do you move on to others without looking like the biggest Fuckwad this side of Tim Eyeman.
Plus, you know as soon as that cherry pops, she's gonna want to check out others to verify whether you're King Salami in the sack or not. You could be the best, but she would want to confirm this first hand.
I kept hands-off of a virgin I knew in CA, though I had multiple opportunities, due to the reasons above. I believe she wanted it, as did I. Years later she called to tell me about her experiences with multiple lovers, etc., but by this time, I was otherwise involved.
With a chick with some miles on her, you may dissapoint in the sack, and she may give you crabs (if you aren't careful) but you don't have to nurse a wicked case of blue balls everytime you see her for the first 6 months you're dating.
Another note: most of the females I've "dated" (ie. screwed around with more than once for more than a couple of weeks at a time) I have kicked things off with within the first three dates, most of them by the end of the first real date ("coffee dates" don't count). So I call BS to the notion women should wait X number of dates before giving it up.
I appreciate your comments, you have mentioned some other really great points.
But I would have to disagree with prefering a virgin for a future spouse. From my point of view, I would rather have somebody who has experienced more than just myself... that way I could hear about how much better I am than they were.
Always a good thing.
Also, it is not always that once the cherry pops she's on for comparison shopping. I super-disagree with that. After I lost my virginity I was not tempted to stray... in fact, if you think about it, women that have lost their virginity are more likely to stick around upon break up than to just say "ok."
Most of the time the psycho bitches we hear about stalking or attacking their boyfriends or signifigant others are because they felt there was something "special" there, and become otherwise co-dependant on you and only you.
I don't really think of women in those terms, some 'experienced' women are still very like the virgins that the other guy described.
I don't see that being a virgin has any value, just as being a virgin's first man doesn't either.
Far more attractive is a self assured, open and confident woman who feels sexy; she's much more likely to be good in bed (or elswhere) than one who doesn't, no matter how experienced she may or may not be.
Just my own view though.
:D
FH
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